Excellent piece but my understanding is that H and M were told that their baby wouldn't have those titles when they were pregnant because the convention that enshines those was doing to be change.
No... the convention didn’t change- the only alternate explanation is that Meghan was demanding a change in the law to make Archie a prince right away but I really doubt she would have been that much of a primadonna. These laws were in place before Harry was born... they have nothing to do with her race. But it seems somebody BADLY dropped the ball in explaining to her that Archie WILL be a Prince automatically without a legal change.
Why wouldn’t Harry have explained that to his wife? Seems like that would have been more of an issue for him than her. Like she said, she didn’t grow up in royalty and therefore wasn’t attached to titles and such.
My take away was not so much that they cared about the title but that not having that title would strip him of any security. They stressed that a lot. Also, stressing that Harry was losing his title and therefore the security that went with it. They both said that they didn't step away but wanted to step back. Instead, they were rebuked and eventually pushed out. Why in the world would the "firm", whatever you want to call it, not want to protect him and his family?
Well because Harry as a person is a very rich man who can easily afford his own security, and because he chose not to stay as a working royal. Ultimately, the security that protects the core members of the Royal Family comes not with the title - another Meghan misunderstanding - but with the 'working Royal' status. Example: Their Royal Highnesses Prince and Princess Michael of Kent - His Royal Highness, Her Royal Highness, Prince Michael, Princess Michael - fully titled Prince and Princess, HRH - don't have ANY security whatsoever, because they are not core working royals. The security is paid for by the British taxpayer, by ordinary working men and women. Harry and Meghan certainly had no right to ask for security paid for by the man and woman on the street, when they are rich and don't want to be working Royals. You can't have your cake and eat it. You can opt out, but you can't ask for ordinary people with so much less than you to pay your bills when you've dropped your duties.
But they said part of the reason they chose Canada was because it was a Commonwealth and their intent was to continue working for the Queen at her request. They don’t strike me as the type to take advantage of the commoners or that would want something for nothing. The security was very-much needed and not an unnecessary luxury. They were under constant threat. In fact, one of the reasons Meghan was do well received on the tour was her relatability factor.
Canadian law doesn’t allow for the Crown to rule from Canada. Therefore a Prince wouldn’t be able to live and work from there as a working Royal. Harry and Meghan may have wanted that, but the Canadians didn’t. Nor did the Queen. For how driven and ambitious they are, they frequently forget to do their homework it seems.
Louise, if we are to assume Meghan didn’t understand the protocol in which her son would become a prince then we must assume Prince Harry didn’t either. Surely, she would have discussed this with her husband before forming an opinion and certainly before going public.
What I gathered from the interview is that Meghan had a taste of life behind the curtains and realized it wasn’t what she or Harry wanted for their child. Simply put, his safety and her mental health/well-being became a priority.
It’s a lot easier for a person born into royalty to accept being controlled. She was asked to give-up basic freedoms that she was accustomed to that most can’t imagine life without. Like, who’s asked to give up their passport? That meant, like a prisoner, she had no choice to leave. I imagine, she was also or at least felt under constant surveillance, by cameras and staff. Could she then trust that her tea or food wasn’t being tampered with at some point? My goodness, lies were being printed incessantly, she was in a mansion, full of strangers and knew not who her enemies were.
You can’t just dismiss her feelings or conclude that she didn’t experience racism as the difference in treatment was glaring. It was also obvious that they chose not to share things that were perhaps more damaging about the family and that should be applauded.
Being told how to exist after living 30-plus-years free to choose, would certainly create a state of mind that most would have to live to understand and once she understood she/they weren’t being protected, they had to do what was best for their family. Maybe the fact that she rejected royalty, so to speak, is what’s really caused some of this disdain.
So could it be, Harry got a taste of true freedom, realized the tumult the monarchy created in his new life and no longer wanted to be controlled then he and Meghan decided that the lifestyle of a Royal was no longer worth the sacrifice of true peace and happiness?
the trouble with that is the fact that she keeps insisting she is still a Royal Highness (no) and wants her children to be HRH. She on the one hand says she does not care about titles but on the other hand she seems to care quite a bit. It's wrong to say that HRH = security; HRH Princess Beatrice and HRH Princess Eugenie do not have any taxpayer funded security (just one example, there are lots of others). Archie and his sister will never be entitled to British working people paying their bills while they live in America with their non-working royal parents. I believe most Americans would call that fair, no?
Thx for explaining because I was most concerned about baby Archie & his future title. If I was an American marrying into British royalty I would have done my homework & asked alot of questions pre wedding.
Excellent piece but my understanding is that H and M were told that their baby wouldn't have those titles when they were pregnant because the convention that enshines those was doing to be change.
speaking of racism here's my take on America's ongoing and dangerous racism: https://dianefrancis.substack.com/p/ku-klux-krazies-
No... the convention didn’t change- the only alternate explanation is that Meghan was demanding a change in the law to make Archie a prince right away but I really doubt she would have been that much of a primadonna. These laws were in place before Harry was born... they have nothing to do with her race. But it seems somebody BADLY dropped the ball in explaining to her that Archie WILL be a Prince automatically without a legal change.
Very plausible. I tweeted out your pedophile piece!
Thank you so much!
Why wouldn’t Harry have explained that to his wife? Seems like that would have been more of an issue for him than her. Like she said, she didn’t grow up in royalty and therefore wasn’t attached to titles and such.
I would love to know that myself
My take away was not so much that they cared about the title but that not having that title would strip him of any security. They stressed that a lot. Also, stressing that Harry was losing his title and therefore the security that went with it. They both said that they didn't step away but wanted to step back. Instead, they were rebuked and eventually pushed out. Why in the world would the "firm", whatever you want to call it, not want to protect him and his family?
Well because Harry as a person is a very rich man who can easily afford his own security, and because he chose not to stay as a working royal. Ultimately, the security that protects the core members of the Royal Family comes not with the title - another Meghan misunderstanding - but with the 'working Royal' status. Example: Their Royal Highnesses Prince and Princess Michael of Kent - His Royal Highness, Her Royal Highness, Prince Michael, Princess Michael - fully titled Prince and Princess, HRH - don't have ANY security whatsoever, because they are not core working royals. The security is paid for by the British taxpayer, by ordinary working men and women. Harry and Meghan certainly had no right to ask for security paid for by the man and woman on the street, when they are rich and don't want to be working Royals. You can't have your cake and eat it. You can opt out, but you can't ask for ordinary people with so much less than you to pay your bills when you've dropped your duties.
But they said part of the reason they chose Canada was because it was a Commonwealth and their intent was to continue working for the Queen at her request. They don’t strike me as the type to take advantage of the commoners or that would want something for nothing. The security was very-much needed and not an unnecessary luxury. They were under constant threat. In fact, one of the reasons Meghan was do well received on the tour was her relatability factor.
Canadian law doesn’t allow for the Crown to rule from Canada. Therefore a Prince wouldn’t be able to live and work from there as a working Royal. Harry and Meghan may have wanted that, but the Canadians didn’t. Nor did the Queen. For how driven and ambitious they are, they frequently forget to do their homework it seems.
Yes, I think the Canadian government may actually have issued a statement on it
Thank you. I very little knowledge of how this all works and this sheds much light on it for me.
Louise, if we are to assume Meghan didn’t understand the protocol in which her son would become a prince then we must assume Prince Harry didn’t either. Surely, she would have discussed this with her husband before forming an opinion and certainly before going public.
What I gathered from the interview is that Meghan had a taste of life behind the curtains and realized it wasn’t what she or Harry wanted for their child. Simply put, his safety and her mental health/well-being became a priority.
It’s a lot easier for a person born into royalty to accept being controlled. She was asked to give-up basic freedoms that she was accustomed to that most can’t imagine life without. Like, who’s asked to give up their passport? That meant, like a prisoner, she had no choice to leave. I imagine, she was also or at least felt under constant surveillance, by cameras and staff. Could she then trust that her tea or food wasn’t being tampered with at some point? My goodness, lies were being printed incessantly, she was in a mansion, full of strangers and knew not who her enemies were.
You can’t just dismiss her feelings or conclude that she didn’t experience racism as the difference in treatment was glaring. It was also obvious that they chose not to share things that were perhaps more damaging about the family and that should be applauded.
Being told how to exist after living 30-plus-years free to choose, would certainly create a state of mind that most would have to live to understand and once she understood she/they weren’t being protected, they had to do what was best for their family. Maybe the fact that she rejected royalty, so to speak, is what’s really caused some of this disdain.
So could it be, Harry got a taste of true freedom, realized the tumult the monarchy created in his new life and no longer wanted to be controlled then he and Meghan decided that the lifestyle of a Royal was no longer worth the sacrifice of true peace and happiness?
the trouble with that is the fact that she keeps insisting she is still a Royal Highness (no) and wants her children to be HRH. She on the one hand says she does not care about titles but on the other hand she seems to care quite a bit. It's wrong to say that HRH = security; HRH Princess Beatrice and HRH Princess Eugenie do not have any taxpayer funded security (just one example, there are lots of others). Archie and his sister will never be entitled to British working people paying their bills while they live in America with their non-working royal parents. I believe most Americans would call that fair, no?
further to Louise's piece here's mine today about the geopolitical fallout of the Harry and Meghan "nuke" https://dianefrancis.substack.com/p/harry-and-meghans-nuke
Thx for explaining because I was most concerned about baby Archie & his future title. If I was an American marrying into British royalty I would have done my homework & asked alot of questions pre wedding.